Brian Lilley & The Lying Jackal On Dalton McGuinty's Gay Agenda

Update: Brian Lilley Laughs at the "Big Mouth"

Brian Lilley & Kinsella have a nice dust-up in the clip that follows, Kinsella calls Lilley a liar, but we're talkin the Jackal here so you know where this story is headed and where the truth lies - Lilley gets so fed up with the Jackal's antics he cuts his mic off, as usual the Jackal spins..and poorly.

Kinsella says it's a lie that parents aren't to be told about the teaching of LGTBQ issues. He even cites page 10 of the curriculum. Clearly, as you'll see, Warren hasn't read page 10 or has read it very selectively...(The document in question is "Challenging Homophobia & Heterosexism" link.)

Specifically Warren says that page 10 of the curriculum states that as a best practice a newsletter should be sent home each semester informing parents of "equity" issues, he denies Lilley's claim that the curriculum states that parents are not to be informed when the LGTBQ agenda is taught.

As Kinsella notes, page 10 of the curriculum does say that as a "best practice" a newsletter should be sent home at the start of every semester. Note however that the newsletter is a recommendation only, it is a suggested "best practice", it is something "nice to do" and is not a direct policy command. The statement forbidding notes to parents is a direct policy command and  the curriculum clearly proclaims that parents are not to be informed by note about sensitive equity issues. See the jpeg for the full statement.

Note also that the newsletter is to be written in such a way that no "single issue" is to be centred out or focused upon as that focus may be discriminatory - in other words the newsletter, if it is written at all, should bury LGTBQ issues wherever possible.

Why the secrecy? Because parents are accused of creating poisoned environments for their own children and can't be trusted - that's also on Page 10 and Warren also left that out for some reason.

Dskrupski –   – (11:45 PM)  

Back in the 80's had a run in with the local high school over teacher pushing equal pay to my grade 9 son. when he stated the philosophy at the supper table I asked him if it was fair for the player that rides the pine to get paid the same as his idol Guy Lafleur. Next day he went to school and tore a strip off of the teacher and the shit hit the fan. I was called in and then the shit hit the fan some more, when I told them that if they tried to indoctrinate my children they would find out what wrath really was. My children never came home with Marxist ideas again and are capitalists today in the grocery business and are part of the 1%.

Blazingcatfur –   – (11:50 PM)  

Good for you and for your children, the Jackal is a part of whatever percentage of the population that are absolute Jackasses.

Coupal –   – (12:41 AM)  

"Hell hath no fury..."  Good for you!  I would have done the same thing.  It's insidious, this indoctrination.  All this so-called "equality" espoused by communism and its "milder" form socialism, looks really good on paper but doesn't hold up under scrutiny.  I am a teacher and when the subject of communism comes up, I put forward ideas that they have never heard.  We talk about the communist philosophy and how realistically it can never work.  Many students who were communist/socialists, have finally changed their minds.  Very satisfying experience!.

batb –   – (12:49 AM)  

Free speech: Doesn't that mean that Brian Lilley and his viewers are free not to hear the forked-tongued speech of Warren Kinsella?

As I've pointed out many times, I've fought these wars -- back in the '90s. There's an agenda out there the proponents of which desire, with all their hearts, to exclude parents from the discussion.

What discussion?

The LGBT cheerleaders clearly don't want any discussion: They just want to ram their unwholesome and dangerous sexual agenda down the throats of under-aged kids -- and how dare parents, of all people, have any opinion about what their children learn about (progressive) sexuality?

The whole thing stinks -- and Warren Kinsella's a jerk for pretending that there's nothing going on here, folks, just move along -- because Brian Lilley's a "liar."

Why have Kinsella on SunTV at all?

Blazingcatfur –   – (12:51 AM)  

Why have the Jackal on at all? Comic relief, a chance to show the general public just how bankrupt "liberals" really are, he's a useful idiot nothing more.

peter j –   – (12:56 AM)  

I started to read the "link" but found it was making me gag.  Thank god my kids have been out of school for a while now, but I feel sorry for my grandkids.

root –   – (1:14 AM)  

He's more of a weasel than a jackal. Brian's too honest for this guy. He gets cheaply ambushed and then pissed off once he realizes it...

jzaik –   – (3:40 AM)  

Oh so pretty, and I'm pretty and witty and gaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!

jzaik –   – (3:42 AM)  

You sir,

.....are a good father.  

perspectives –   – (3:56 AM)  

Kinsella said he did not think it appropriate that all those genders be taught to third graders, yet he states that this is curriculum from 1998.  The stop corrupting Children site has the 2009 and the new curriculum available on their main page.

Micheal Erickson, who is credited as being one of the lead writers of the new curriculum, did not join the TDSB until the year 2000, so how could he have possibly have been a writer for TDSB in 1998 - the year that Kinsella is stating the curriculum used for the Abacus poll was from? In 1998 Erickson, according to his resume posted at his NDP site, was a youth worker in 1998. Erickson specifically states that he began contributing to writing curriculum for the TDSB in 2009 - he is not acknowledged as contributing to the 2009 curriculum which is based on all aspects of health and communication within 208 pages; whereas, the new curriculum focuses ENTIRELY on  the LGBT issues and contains 223 pages.

Kinsella did not do his research. There is no possible way that the Abacus poll was using 1998 curriculum or even proposed 1998 curriculum. He was simply playing the denial (wrong document) and blame game (wrong government). The fact remains that the TDSB has a 223 page curriculum dedicated to the LGBT agenda - what other group is given an equal 223 pages? This is far from being equal or inclusive, on the contrary.

perspectives –   – (4:05 AM)  

 Page 216 - Appendix B of the new curriculum entitled "Declaration of Family and Parental Rights" is the most Orwellian communication I have seen in decades.

NorthernThoughts  – (4:53 AM)  

So it isn't a violation of free speech to shout someone down, to call them a liar, and to behave like a disruptive child, but DEMANDING you be allowed to get a word in edge wise is somehow against free speech? Warren Kinsella's microphone wasn't even cut off, despite Brian Lilley calling for it. He stopped talking when he realized he crossed the line with Lilley and that his microphone would be cut off.

Once again, I have to praise Brian Lilley for his patience. If it were me in his position, the interview would have ended and I would have spent the rest of the segment reading page 10 and proving that Warren Kinsella and the other Liberal Party hacks were the liars. Pathetic...

ismiselemeas –   – (6:36 AM)  

I'm contacting the head at my kids school after Christmas to see what they're actually getting taught. I also want to find out what they're getting to eat as well. I've already posted photos on my Facebook of spelling tests with spelling errors. It's quite chronic actually. If the teacher can't even use basic written English how are the children expected to do the same?

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:51 AM)  

Sorta changes the meaning of "fleet's in!"

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:52 AM)  

Expect nothing from the Jackal but all of the above.

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:53 AM)  

I will have to check that out. Thanks.

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:54 AM)  

I hope they have a re-match;)

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:54 AM)  

Spelling errors by the teacher? Likely part of the diversity initiative.

Paul Gordon –   – (8:46 AM)  

Does Kinnsella, born with a liberal spoon up his ass,  have children, grandchildern, a woman besides Margaret Turdeau who would marry him? Is he gay?

Then what business does he have supporting poppa McGutless?

Is Kinnse

Paul Gordon –   – (8:51 AM)  

I for one  have no clothes, I was taught in pubic school right thru.

Did get a couple of best achiever awards though....once I learned how to play it from fall to spring.

Clink9 –   – (8:59 AM)  

 So, Kinsella has now converted to the Church Of Free Speech after trying to get Kathy shut out of a TVO appearance?


perspectives –   – (9:36 AM)  

 It's a memorandum to teachers letting them know that a declaration of family and parental rights is not recognized by the TDSB and that there can be  no exemptions from human rights education; including religious accommodation, yet the footer at the end of the memo reads:

2011 TDSB Equitable and Inclusive Schools

I have not been able to discover if the 263 page "Challenging Homophobia and Heterosexism" curriculum is replacing the current Health & PE curriculum or is an addition to it  - would you happen to know?

dogwonder –   – (9:44 AM)  

Spinsilla caught doing what he does best leaving half the facts out? Anyone with half a brain can go read the page and will note they do indeed deny parents notification of their grooming propaganda.

Daniel9vs2 –   – (10:04 AM)  

they are jacks asses

Blazingcatfur –   – (10:05 AM)  

Typical of him, expect no better - ever.

Blazingcatfur –   – (10:05 AM)  

Not off hand, sorry.

perspectives –   – (10:30 AM)  

typo 223 pages not 263.

Ann –   – (10:31 AM)  

The Liberals are still blaming Mike Harris? The McGuinty government set the education agenda and are now denying that this is their handiwork? For goodness sakes,  Dalton McGuinty, Glen Murray, Kathleen Wynn, Laurel Brotten the education minister are self loathing  Liberals, and these are their sexual politics. The gang of them don't let educating children get in their way of race and identity politics. 

What is truly hilarious is that they sent Kinsella to rebut the polling data. Given that McGuinty has a minority government and polling data that suggests the government could fall on sexual politics, Kinsella knows as a strategist he's got to come up with a plan to stop the erosion of the base. So true to form the aggressive offence and the tacit insult that being  - calling Brian Lilley a liar.

Sean –   – (10:50 AM)  

I'm told that marital infidelity can also cause a poisoned environment for the kids.

David Smith –   – (11:09 AM)  

What does that have to do with teaching children that sodomy is a grand and noble thing?

Paul Gordon –   – (12:01 PM)  

Harris did dick all for social conservatives except lie.

He made phony promises to socons, then left his wife family and socons.

He also appointed homosexual Norton as head of the OHC acting in direct contrast to the mule he rode in on. 

He turned out to be an ass and a dud, and teachers ended up with more than ever...teachers.... his own ilk by the way.

Natasha  – (12:15 PM)  

Thank God for teachers like you, but I fear you're probably in the minority.

Ann –   – (12:39 PM)  

How does that relate to the poling data being debated by Brian Lilley and Warren Kinsella?

The_Gentile –   – (12:41 PM)  

Any re-match should start with an apology from Jackass, but alas, he's beneath such courtesies.

The_Gentile –   – (12:45 PM)  

That's why they call them "Progressive" Conservatives.

The_Gentile –   – (12:50 PM)  

Sexual predilections aside, a curriculum which focuses more on LGTBQ&TS than family values will surely lead to what Sean has stated.

The_Gentile –   – (12:54 PM)  

Great piece BCF. I caught this last night. Betcha Brian will carve Swinesella a new asshole again tonight.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:14 PM)  

I hope so!

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:15 PM)  

It's a perversely skewed set of priorities catering to a very small minority of radicals.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:16 PM)  

Lilley will have fun with this.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:20 PM)  

History will not be kind and don't get me started on Ernie Eaves.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:22 PM)  


Blazingcatfur –   – (1:26 PM)  

I have heard that.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:27 PM)  

I'm glad they left it to Kinsella, its doomed to failure, the man is a walking kiss of death.

Blazingcatfur –   – (1:29 PM)  

Plenty have and will now read it.

Clink9 –   – (2:30 PM)  

If they had any brains, they'd be teaching kids ( older ones ) about the perils of a homosexual life. Maybe some kid will grow up to be a gay lawyer, get aids, then sue the schoolboard for not informing them of the dangers.

The_Gentile –   – (2:40 PM)  

Check out BC Blue's post, he's got some verbatim potty mouth from Catsella regarding this typical liberal display of derogatory doo-doo.

Blazingcatfur –   – (2:41 PM)  

I bet someone will try.

TPDanbo –   – (2:46 PM)  

I love the SUN news channel BUT I will NEVER understand why they insist on" dancing with devil" and inviting these Wackos and others like Adam Giambrone,Sid Ryan,even ED Broadbent and many otherLeftwing/liberal/socialist /unionists to TELL their side ,I mean WHO CARES,REALLY! IF we wanted that CRAP we can hear it everywhere else in the"Consensus Media" so stop trying to appear to be fair and stick to CONSERVATIVE GUESTS AND VALUES!

Blazingcatfur –   – (2:46 PM)  

Ha! What an Ass he is.

rob nichols –   – (3:55 PM)  

I put a post up his blog with a small quote from the facts above.

I was shocked, that my comment didn't make it :(

One can only wonder why?

Paul Gordon –   – (4:11 PM)  

Hey, you brought up that jackass, Ann.

He could have should have didn't, follow through, force the teachers into a corner  a la Reagan and the air controllers and destroyed the strongest unions in Ontario.

Kids would have been better served taught by uh uh uh oh yeah anyfuckingone.

Was education left off any better for Ontario having Harris as Premier?

Don't think so.

He stirred up the hornets, fucked off literally, and left the perfect storm  set-up for McGuinty's Heros to have their way with our oportunity they couldn't waste.

Every liberal hated his guts anyway. Why didn't he use that to his advantage and actually do something with it. like a Reagan with scrupples.

NO! Being the blowhard Canadian he was he just wanted to get re-elected and started that agenda the first day he was elected...typically Canadianish

Elected officials should do the  right thing and leave early if they are forced to by a narcissistic electorate rather than hang around for ever doing the wrong things.

You shouldn't exonerate Harris or praise him for anything. In the end he was typical hardly exceptional.

Paul Gordon –   – (4:15 PM)  

Sure does for political leadership!

Paul Gordon –   – (4:18 PM)  

So true, BCF, but those bastards skewed and lied their way in charge.

Glad they didn't fool anyone here.

Long live free speech, we pray.

Paul Gordon –   – (4:22 PM)  

I'll drink to that! 

(no insurance companies,  it's an vultures)

Blazingcatfur –   – (4:33 PM)  

Facts concern him.

Ann –   – (4:45 PM)  

Paul at 3:40 of the video, Warren Kinsella mentions Mike Harris and that is the reason for referencing him. The debate between Brian Lilley and Warren kinsella centres which government's document is at the heart of the equity and inclusive policy and its applicable programming.

poyani –   – (5:13 PM)  

 They are trying to financially survive.  It seems there is far less of you right-wing wackos than this blog would have you believe.

poyani –   – (5:15 PM)  

Cute story.  100% fiction, but cute nonetheless. 

Osumashi Kinyobe  – (5:20 PM)  

Why is Kinsella being such a dink about this? It says right there on page ten that parents shouldn't be notified. ANY one should be alarmed by this.

Hank5 –   – (5:37 PM)  

Why have the jerk on?

So Krista can keep on smacking her lips whenever she "interviews" him.

Blazingcatfur –   – (6:31 PM)  

What's worse is the staement about parents creating "poisoned environments" it doesn't get more Soviet than that.

1389  – (12:23 AM)  

Sex outside of a normal marriage between one man and one woman, whether the nonmarital sex is homosexual or heterosexual, can also cause a poisoned environment for the kids.

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